The Prayer of Manassa
This is a well written prayer, after all if we are seeking forgiveness and reconciliation with GOD for Lilith and Nahema shouldn't we seek it also?
Prayer of Manasseh
Thou who hast made heaven and earth with all their order;
Who hast shackled the sea by thy word of command, who hast confined the deep and sealed it with thy terrible and glorious name;
At whom all things shudder, and tremble before thy power,
For thy glorious splendor cannot be borne, and the wrath of thy threat to sinners is irresistible;
Yet immeasurable and unsearchable is thy promised mercy,
For thou art the Lord Most High, of great compassion, long-suffering, and very merciful, and repentest over the evils of men. Thou, O Lord, according to thy great goodness hast promised repentance and forgiveness to those who have sinned against thee; and in the multitude of thy mercies thou hast appointed repentance for sinners, that they may be saved.
Therefore thou, O Lord, God of the righteous, hast not appointed repentance for the righteous, for Abraham and Isaac and Jacob, who did not sin against thee, but thou hast appointed repentance for me, who am a sinner.
For the sins I have committed are more in number than the sand of the sea; my transgressions are multiplied, O Lord, they are multiplied! I am unworthy to look up and see the height of heaven because of the multitude of my iniquities.
I am weighted down with many an iron fetter, so that I am rejected because of my sins, and I have no relief; for I have provoked thy wrath and have done what is evil in thy sight, setting up abominations and multiplying offenses.
And now I bend the knee of my heart, beseeching thee for thy kindness.
I have sinned, O Lord, I have sinned, and I know my transgressions.
I earnestly beseech thee, forgive me, O Lord, forgive me! Do not destroy me with my transgressions! Do not be angry with me for ever or lay up evil for me; do not condemn me to the depths of the earth. For thou, O Lord, art the God of those who repent,
And in me thou wilt manifest thy goodness; for, unworthy as I am, thou wilt save me in thy great mercy,
And I will praise thee continually all the days of my life. For all the host of heaven sings thy praise, and thine is the glory for ever. Amen.
Saturday, 19 December 2015
Reconcile Lilith & Nahema to GOD (ii)
This is a novena which I have altered as an example what one may do to get things happening. You might come up with something yourself, as long as it aims and serve to help Lilith and Nahema to reconcile with God then that it all that matters.
I would recommend that such prayers be done to the planetary hours of the Moon, but as long as they are said and declared (its not only humans who can hear you say such things) then you are helping, at least its better than nothing.
Novena for Lilith and Nahema
Day 1
O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth who is the aspect of the God of Abraham and indeed the God of All in this world of Assiah, my Saviour I have so often deserved to be cast into hell how great would be my suffering if I were now cast away and obliged to think that I myself had caused my damnation. I thank Thee for the patience with which Thou hast endured me. My God, I love Thee above all things and I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee because Thou art infinite goodness. I will rather die than offend Thee again. Grant me the grace of perseverance. Have pity on me and at the same time on those blessed souls suffering in Purgatory.
I ask that you forgive Lilith and Nahema, that you reconcile them to you. I believe that they can do good for us as they can share their experience with us so we do not have to err into wrongful choice in our existence. We could learn how not to live and how not to offend you through our ignorance, once we learn we have no excuse for evil choices.
Praise be on you Jehovah who is the aspect of God in Briah for you are our creator, you are the only God and there is no other. Praise be upon your name by all existence for all praise is owed to you, there is none who could justify higher praise than you.
I ask for favour O Lord, please reconcile Lilith and Nahema to your will, for your will rules over all. Praise be upon you O God of All in all worlds by all without exception.
Day 2
Woe to me, unhappy being, so many years have I already spent on earth and have earned naught but hell! I give Thee thanks, O Lord, for granting me time even now to atone for my sins. My good God, I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee. Send me Thy assistance, that I may apply the time yet remaining to me for Thy love and service; have compassion on me, and, at the same time, on the Holy Souls suffering in Purgatory.
I pray for Lilith and Nahema, that they will be reconciled to you Jehovah.
O God and Creator of All existence come to their assistance with thy powerful and merciful judgment. You alone are worthy of praise, you are the only God as known and taugh by Abraham.
Day 3
My God! Because Thou art infinite goodness, I love Thee above all things, and repent with my whole heart of my offenses against Thee. Grant me the grace of holy perseverance. Have compassion on me, and, at the same, on the Holy Souls suffering in Purgatory.
I pray for Lilith and Nahema that they be reconciled to you Almighty and only GOD of All without exception. I appeal to your infinite wisdom and mercy that they may be fully in your service and your grace.
Praise be upon you O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth who is the aspect of the God of Abraham and indeed the God of All in this world of Assiah for none other is worthy of worship.
Day 4
My God! because Thou art infinite goodness, I am sorry with my whole heart for having offended Thee. I promise to die rather than ever offend Thee more. Give me holy perseverance; have pity on me, and have pity on those Holy Souls that burn in the cleansing fire and love Thee with all their hearts.
O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth, I ask for your permission that I may address Lilith and Nahema.
To Lilith and Nahema I say - Seek reconciliation with our creator for his mercy is infinite, serve him for he is perfect and pure. Please renounce and correct those who perform despicable cruelty in your names, those who revel in utmost cruelty in your names are not worshippers of yours because they revel in cruelty and corruption.
Cleanse your names and your souls and reconcile with GOD - Jehovah your creator whose mercy allows you to live in this world of Assiah.
Day 5
Woe to me, unhappy being, if Thou, O Lord, hadst cast me into hell; for from that dungeon of eternal pain there is no deliverance. I love Thee above all things, O Infinite God and I am sincerely sorry for having offended Thee again. Grant me the grace of holy perseverance. Have compassion on me, and, at the same time, on the Holy Souls suffering in Purgatory.
O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth, O God of All, come to their assistance. Come to the assistance of Lilith and Nahema with thy powerful love and mercy.
Day 6
My Divine Creator, Thou didst give life and animation to my existence, for I could not be here otherwise and I have repaid Thee only with ingratitude. Now, however, I love Thee above all things, O Supreme God; and I am more grieved at my offences against Thee than at any other evil. I will rather die than offend Thee again. Grant me the grace of holy perseverance. Have compassion on me, and, at the same time, on the Holy Souls suffering in Purgatory.
Have mercy on the lives, animations and souls of Lilith and Nahema.
Grant mercy onto them true and only GOD, for there is none other who could grant them grace, mercy and forgiveness.
Praise be upon you O God of All by all existence, may your name and all your attributes be praised by all without exception for none other deserves such righteous praise.
Hallowed be thy name O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth.
Hallowed be thy name.
Day 7
God, Father of Mercy, satisfy this their ardent desire! Send them Thy holy Angel to announce to them that Thou, their Father, are now reconciled with them through your infinite mercy and righteousness, and that the moment of their deliverance has arrived.
Lilith and Nahema I say to you - Praise your creator and his infite mercy and love. Submit to his will of your own free choice, beg for his mercy and open your hearts.
Praise the name of Jehovah for he is our only GOD and creator in the world of Briah.
I say before us all, praise be upon you and your name Jehovah. I pray to you in good faith.
Day 8
Oh my God! I also am one of these ungrateful beings, having received so much grace, and yet despised Thy love and deserved to be cast by Thee into hell. But Thy Infinite Goodness has spared me until now. Therefore, I now love Thee above all things, and I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee. I will rather die than ever offend Thee. Grant me the grace of holy perseverance. Have compassion on me and, at the same time, on the Holy Souls suffering in Purgatory.
O God the Almighty, true and only God, the one who taught Abraham, come to their aid with thy powerful love and mercy.
To Lilith and Nahema I say - Offer to our and indeed your GOD and creator to atone for your misgivings. For your errors and sins seek to reconcile with GOD by helping others to the path to GOD on this earth.
Praise be upon you O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth, praise be upon your name. May Lilith and Nahema be forgiven and uplifted from the state they are in. Allow them the chance to atone for misgivings, wrongness and sins comitted by them and in their name.
Praise the name of the God of All as known by Abraham and praise be upon his aspects in all worlds - I say to all, for none other is worthy of worship.
Day 9
My God! How was it possible that I, for so many years, have borne tranquilly the separation from Thee and Thy Holy Grace! O Infinite Goodness, how long-suffering hast Thou shown Thyself to me! Henceforth, I shall love Thee above all things. I am deeply sorry for having offended Thee; I promise rather to die than to again offend Thee. Grant me the grace of holy perseverance, and do not permit that I should ever again fall into sin. Have compassion on the Holy Souls in Purgatory.
I pray and petition you O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth the true and only aspect of GOD in this world of Assiah. I pray for Lilith and Nahema
I pray Thee, moderate their sufferings; shorten the time of their misery; call them soon unto Thee in heaven, that they may behold Thee face to face, and forever love Thee.
Jehovah, Lord GOD Almighty Creator of all that exists, has existed and will exist come to their aid with thy powerful intercession, and pray for us also who are still in danger of eternal damnation.
I appeal to your infinite mercy and will, for there is nothing higher than you. I know O Lord that nothing is impossible for you, for as you will then thus it is.
Praise be upon you O God of All, hallowed be thy being.
Praise be upon you O God of All for your mercy and love is infinite and your righteousness in perfect. None could ever hope to surpass thee, for your will and power is infinitely high above that which we could ever have a concept of.
Praise be upon you O Holy Spirit of Atziluth
Praise be upon you O Holy Father the Creator Jehovah of Briah
Praise be upon you O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth of Yetzirah and Assiah
Praise be upon you O God of All, the God of Abraham for you are the only God ever - and ever will be.
Praise be upon you for your unity is one
Lilith and Nahema blessed Souls, I have prayed for thee; I entreat thee, who are so dear to God, and who are secure of never losing Him, to pray for me a miserable sinner, who is in danger of being damned, and of losing God forever.
Amen.
I would recommend that such prayers be done to the planetary hours of the Moon, but as long as they are said and declared (its not only humans who can hear you say such things) then you are helping, at least its better than nothing.
Novena for Lilith and Nahema
Day 1
O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth who is the aspect of the God of Abraham and indeed the God of All in this world of Assiah, my Saviour I have so often deserved to be cast into hell how great would be my suffering if I were now cast away and obliged to think that I myself had caused my damnation. I thank Thee for the patience with which Thou hast endured me. My God, I love Thee above all things and I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee because Thou art infinite goodness. I will rather die than offend Thee again. Grant me the grace of perseverance. Have pity on me and at the same time on those blessed souls suffering in Purgatory.
I ask that you forgive Lilith and Nahema, that you reconcile them to you. I believe that they can do good for us as they can share their experience with us so we do not have to err into wrongful choice in our existence. We could learn how not to live and how not to offend you through our ignorance, once we learn we have no excuse for evil choices.
Praise be on you Jehovah who is the aspect of God in Briah for you are our creator, you are the only God and there is no other. Praise be upon your name by all existence for all praise is owed to you, there is none who could justify higher praise than you.
I ask for favour O Lord, please reconcile Lilith and Nahema to your will, for your will rules over all. Praise be upon you O God of All in all worlds by all without exception.
Day 2
Woe to me, unhappy being, so many years have I already spent on earth and have earned naught but hell! I give Thee thanks, O Lord, for granting me time even now to atone for my sins. My good God, I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee. Send me Thy assistance, that I may apply the time yet remaining to me for Thy love and service; have compassion on me, and, at the same time, on the Holy Souls suffering in Purgatory.
I pray for Lilith and Nahema, that they will be reconciled to you Jehovah.
O God and Creator of All existence come to their assistance with thy powerful and merciful judgment. You alone are worthy of praise, you are the only God as known and taugh by Abraham.
Day 3
My God! Because Thou art infinite goodness, I love Thee above all things, and repent with my whole heart of my offenses against Thee. Grant me the grace of holy perseverance. Have compassion on me, and, at the same, on the Holy Souls suffering in Purgatory.
I pray for Lilith and Nahema that they be reconciled to you Almighty and only GOD of All without exception. I appeal to your infinite wisdom and mercy that they may be fully in your service and your grace.
Praise be upon you O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth who is the aspect of the God of Abraham and indeed the God of All in this world of Assiah for none other is worthy of worship.
Day 4
My God! because Thou art infinite goodness, I am sorry with my whole heart for having offended Thee. I promise to die rather than ever offend Thee more. Give me holy perseverance; have pity on me, and have pity on those Holy Souls that burn in the cleansing fire and love Thee with all their hearts.
O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth, I ask for your permission that I may address Lilith and Nahema.
To Lilith and Nahema I say - Seek reconciliation with our creator for his mercy is infinite, serve him for he is perfect and pure. Please renounce and correct those who perform despicable cruelty in your names, those who revel in utmost cruelty in your names are not worshippers of yours because they revel in cruelty and corruption.
Cleanse your names and your souls and reconcile with GOD - Jehovah your creator whose mercy allows you to live in this world of Assiah.
Day 5
Woe to me, unhappy being, if Thou, O Lord, hadst cast me into hell; for from that dungeon of eternal pain there is no deliverance. I love Thee above all things, O Infinite God and I am sincerely sorry for having offended Thee again. Grant me the grace of holy perseverance. Have compassion on me, and, at the same time, on the Holy Souls suffering in Purgatory.
O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth, O God of All, come to their assistance. Come to the assistance of Lilith and Nahema with thy powerful love and mercy.
Day 6
My Divine Creator, Thou didst give life and animation to my existence, for I could not be here otherwise and I have repaid Thee only with ingratitude. Now, however, I love Thee above all things, O Supreme God; and I am more grieved at my offences against Thee than at any other evil. I will rather die than offend Thee again. Grant me the grace of holy perseverance. Have compassion on me, and, at the same time, on the Holy Souls suffering in Purgatory.
Have mercy on the lives, animations and souls of Lilith and Nahema.
Grant mercy onto them true and only GOD, for there is none other who could grant them grace, mercy and forgiveness.
Praise be upon you O God of All by all existence, may your name and all your attributes be praised by all without exception for none other deserves such righteous praise.
Hallowed be thy name O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth.
Hallowed be thy name.
Day 7
God, Father of Mercy, satisfy this their ardent desire! Send them Thy holy Angel to announce to them that Thou, their Father, are now reconciled with them through your infinite mercy and righteousness, and that the moment of their deliverance has arrived.
Lilith and Nahema I say to you - Praise your creator and his infite mercy and love. Submit to his will of your own free choice, beg for his mercy and open your hearts.
Praise the name of Jehovah for he is our only GOD and creator in the world of Briah.
I say before us all, praise be upon you and your name Jehovah. I pray to you in good faith.
Day 8
Oh my God! I also am one of these ungrateful beings, having received so much grace, and yet despised Thy love and deserved to be cast by Thee into hell. But Thy Infinite Goodness has spared me until now. Therefore, I now love Thee above all things, and I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee. I will rather die than ever offend Thee. Grant me the grace of holy perseverance. Have compassion on me and, at the same time, on the Holy Souls suffering in Purgatory.
O God the Almighty, true and only God, the one who taught Abraham, come to their aid with thy powerful love and mercy.
To Lilith and Nahema I say - Offer to our and indeed your GOD and creator to atone for your misgivings. For your errors and sins seek to reconcile with GOD by helping others to the path to GOD on this earth.
Praise be upon you O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth, praise be upon your name. May Lilith and Nahema be forgiven and uplifted from the state they are in. Allow them the chance to atone for misgivings, wrongness and sins comitted by them and in their name.
Praise the name of the God of All as known by Abraham and praise be upon his aspects in all worlds - I say to all, for none other is worthy of worship.
Day 9
My God! How was it possible that I, for so many years, have borne tranquilly the separation from Thee and Thy Holy Grace! O Infinite Goodness, how long-suffering hast Thou shown Thyself to me! Henceforth, I shall love Thee above all things. I am deeply sorry for having offended Thee; I promise rather to die than to again offend Thee. Grant me the grace of holy perseverance, and do not permit that I should ever again fall into sin. Have compassion on the Holy Souls in Purgatory.
I pray and petition you O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth the true and only aspect of GOD in this world of Assiah. I pray for Lilith and Nahema
I pray Thee, moderate their sufferings; shorten the time of their misery; call them soon unto Thee in heaven, that they may behold Thee face to face, and forever love Thee.
Jehovah, Lord GOD Almighty Creator of all that exists, has existed and will exist come to their aid with thy powerful intercession, and pray for us also who are still in danger of eternal damnation.
I appeal to your infinite mercy and will, for there is nothing higher than you. I know O Lord that nothing is impossible for you, for as you will then thus it is.
Praise be upon you O God of All, hallowed be thy being.
Praise be upon you O God of All for your mercy and love is infinite and your righteousness in perfect. None could ever hope to surpass thee, for your will and power is infinitely high above that which we could ever have a concept of.
Praise be upon you O Holy Spirit of Atziluth
Praise be upon you O Holy Father the Creator Jehovah of Briah
Praise be upon you O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth of Yetzirah and Assiah
Praise be upon you O God of All, the God of Abraham for you are the only God ever - and ever will be.
Praise be upon you for your unity is one
Lilith and Nahema blessed Souls, I have prayed for thee; I entreat thee, who are so dear to God, and who are secure of never losing Him, to pray for me a miserable sinner, who is in danger of being damned, and of losing God forever.
Amen.
Reconcile Lilith & Nahema to GOD (i)
Some Q&A about this writing and its purpose.
Q: What is this writing about?
A: This writing is to encourage and lead others into its purpose, that being the reconciliation of Lilith and Nahema with Jehovah or GOD or even the God of Abraham if you wish. Regardless of the names you know the above 3 by, it is their reconciliation with each other that is the purpose.
Q: If this happens what will happen?
A: To be totally honest I don't really know, but if this does happen it would be fair to say that they (Lilith and Nahema) would no longer be figureheads or excuses for the corrupt and perverted who use them to justify their acts of cruelty, corruption and self worship. I do believe if Lilith and Nahema are reconciled with GOD then it would be a great step to Tiqqun Olam or restoration of the world, the world as GOD meant it to be.
A world without evil or malice and with a great improvement to all animated beings.
Q: But what's in it for me?
A: It can cost you nothing, after all what does it cost you to pray? You will be contributing to the greater good of this world and in turn to yourself. You will be forcing honesty to society which to be honest seems quite corrupt. You will feel good because you know you are doing good.
Q: Are we praying to these 2 with the shrines and stuff? Should we be?
A: Absolutely not! You are praying for them not to them, you must never pray to anyone but GOD.
Q: Will you succeed?
A: I certainly hope to, but the more that know means that more can help. We have to start somewhere.
Q: But how is this going to suceed?
A: If Lilith can 'jailbreak' out of the sephira of Gomaliel on the Tree of Death then the tree will be out of balance. It certainly would have a much lesser impact on this earth in this world (Tebhel and Cheled in Assiah... or Malkuth on the Tree of Life)
Q: What is this writing about?
A: This writing is to encourage and lead others into its purpose, that being the reconciliation of Lilith and Nahema with Jehovah or GOD or even the God of Abraham if you wish. Regardless of the names you know the above 3 by, it is their reconciliation with each other that is the purpose.
Q: If this happens what will happen?
A: To be totally honest I don't really know, but if this does happen it would be fair to say that they (Lilith and Nahema) would no longer be figureheads or excuses for the corrupt and perverted who use them to justify their acts of cruelty, corruption and self worship. I do believe if Lilith and Nahema are reconciled with GOD then it would be a great step to Tiqqun Olam or restoration of the world, the world as GOD meant it to be.
A world without evil or malice and with a great improvement to all animated beings.
Q: But what's in it for me?
A: It can cost you nothing, after all what does it cost you to pray? You will be contributing to the greater good of this world and in turn to yourself. You will be forcing honesty to society which to be honest seems quite corrupt. You will feel good because you know you are doing good.
Q: Are we praying to these 2 with the shrines and stuff? Should we be?
A: Absolutely not! You are praying for them not to them, you must never pray to anyone but GOD.
Q: Will you succeed?
A: I certainly hope to, but the more that know means that more can help. We have to start somewhere.
Q: But how is this going to suceed?
A: If Lilith can 'jailbreak' out of the sephira of Gomaliel on the Tree of Death then the tree will be out of balance. It certainly would have a much lesser impact on this earth in this world (Tebhel and Cheled in Assiah... or Malkuth on the Tree of Life)
Reconcile Lilith & Nahema to GOD
I hope to explain and enlist your help to bring back Lilith and Nahema into the service of GOD.
If we can we will help restoration of all into the world GOD planned for us all, we can change the world for the better. Certainly better than it is now.
My motive and my aim
I believe that at this current time the world has become so infinitely and absolutely corrupt in its current status. All of our religions have been perverted to the extent that it is impossible to seperate them from being political movements rather than spiritual beliefs. The teachings of the prophets have been twisted and repeatedly reinterpreted to mean everything to everyone at any given time and now mean nothing to no-one at every given time.
God is still God, I know him as the Creator - Jehovah of Briah, I also know him as Holy Spirit of Atziluth and Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth. I believe in my Creator as nothing would exist without his design and action. There is no other entity that has been shown to create, not Satan and certainly not man. All secondary creation by these two is by using what had already existed before their thought, can either of them create dirt or life from nothing? All creation has ultimately one point of origin, there never was multiple creators. There could not be, looking at the variations of life forms it is obvious that everything is not directly equal but rather complementary which indicates that this is the design and will of an intellect of one who could never be surpassed in any manner.
Today on this earth we have "equality" enforced by those who claim God does not exist and yet hate him so much. These people are maltheists, they believe in the existence of God but regard him as "evil". In this day good has become bad, to be called wicked means you are of a higher rank than your peers. Did not George Orwell predict such things? There is an order to things and this means our entire existence both the physical and spiritual, the seen and unseen as well as the known and unknown.
The maltheists seek to overthrow all order, you might be tempted to call it nihilism but that indicates that they wish to overthrow all order and make no plans to replace it or you could call it a belief in nothing. But look at what is happening and being accepted by the population of the world, people who call themselves the "faithful" pervert the words and roles of the various prophets of various religions. The prophets told people to worship God but now their words have been re-interpreted to mean to worship them as gods. The God of the Heavens has given way to the gods on earth and even then their "deity" passes into insignificance every day. Even the majority of Satanists don't actually believe in Satan, they just use his name in order to look "wicked".
The only god the maltheist has is himself and his worshippers are the willingly stupid and the morally bankrupt. Spiritualism has given way to money as "anything for a dollar" is the new idiom for life. It is of no consequence how you get rich, you can be a drug dealer and you would be wicked in deed and "wicked" in social standing with no moral judgment passed on you as you have risen in earthly "deity" status by acolytes whose only mantra is "anything for a dollar".
I remember a saying that was associated with the hashashin of Persia... "Nothing is true, All is permitted". And indeed this seems to be the case today, natural order is ignored, good and bad are man made political definitions instead of absolute moral judgments and even then it depends for whose financial benefit they will be made.
That being the case we can apply that to matters not of this world in relation to those of this world. We who are faithful to God both in spirit and in physical being should not only seek to awaken the physical beings of this earth but the non physical as well. We have more in common with the spiritual beings that have traditionly regarded as evil rather than the earthly maltheists.
God does not need our help but I think he likes to see what we will do to impress and please him. People can be content by praying in religious services like parrots repeating the same words week in and week out, but anyone can do that - it does not really convey sincerity. We can do better.
Could we do any worse?
So what do I propose?
We should pray for those spiritual entities that are regarded as evil, if each one of us were to "adopt" one and pray for their reconciliation with God think of the difference it would make to the current man made order that we tolerate on this earth. We would truly rise above the maltheist flotsam and jetsum who for all intents and purposes interfere in our relationship with our Creator. If people are willing to pray for us in our time of trouble and times were we have drifted from God, shouldn't we do the same for others whether they are human or not?
Myself I have adopted two entities, the first being Lilith and the second being Nahema.
Lilith was the first wife of Adam, she rebelled against the natural order established by God. She was the first earthly woman not created from Adams' body (rib), she fled the Garden of Eden rather than being expelled and found company in the likes of the fallen Angels lead by the Satan (Lucifer). She is not like us as she is not under the same judgment of Adam and Eve regarding the expulsion from Eden.
Nahema is a demoness much in the way of Lilith and indeed Abyzou, but all 3 have lost any semblance of guiding mortals to serve evil. Whatever they originally had been set out to do has been hijacked by atheists/maltheists/nihiltheists and have been made redundant.
Were both women inheritantly evil? Most unlikely, but the actions of those who are supposedly acolytes of them certainly are and this has stained their reputations.
Let me put this to you, if you didn't like the actions of the government you live under you might decide to run for office in an election or become an activist. What if you won some sort of office but later discover that those who voted for you and supported you were the absolute scum of society? Would you still take office? Would you quit? Would you simply see it as its better to have someone on your side than no-one?
If enough good people can outnumber and outdo the bad then these two would have no interest in keeping their association with the scum using their names and may even rebuke them in front of the world.
This is what I am seeking to achieve, if this happened then what would the maltheists say or do? What could they do?
Look at it this way, your computer has an operating system and as you add third party programs to it the libraries and registry has to make adjustments to accommodate this software. Eventually the system becomes corrupted by conflicting functions and not to mention malware such as viruses and trojans. The hard drive has to be reformatted and operating system reinstalled for things to function as intended.
I believe we as those of this earth and existence have reached that stage.
There seems to be two types of people on this earth - the corrupted and corruptors, its time to make things right.
Or at least certainly try.
Praise the God of All and praise his aspects and name.
Praise God for his unity is one
If we can we will help restoration of all into the world GOD planned for us all, we can change the world for the better. Certainly better than it is now.
My motive and my aim
I believe that at this current time the world has become so infinitely and absolutely corrupt in its current status. All of our religions have been perverted to the extent that it is impossible to seperate them from being political movements rather than spiritual beliefs. The teachings of the prophets have been twisted and repeatedly reinterpreted to mean everything to everyone at any given time and now mean nothing to no-one at every given time.
God is still God, I know him as the Creator - Jehovah of Briah, I also know him as Holy Spirit of Atziluth and Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth. I believe in my Creator as nothing would exist without his design and action. There is no other entity that has been shown to create, not Satan and certainly not man. All secondary creation by these two is by using what had already existed before their thought, can either of them create dirt or life from nothing? All creation has ultimately one point of origin, there never was multiple creators. There could not be, looking at the variations of life forms it is obvious that everything is not directly equal but rather complementary which indicates that this is the design and will of an intellect of one who could never be surpassed in any manner.
Today on this earth we have "equality" enforced by those who claim God does not exist and yet hate him so much. These people are maltheists, they believe in the existence of God but regard him as "evil". In this day good has become bad, to be called wicked means you are of a higher rank than your peers. Did not George Orwell predict such things? There is an order to things and this means our entire existence both the physical and spiritual, the seen and unseen as well as the known and unknown.
The maltheists seek to overthrow all order, you might be tempted to call it nihilism but that indicates that they wish to overthrow all order and make no plans to replace it or you could call it a belief in nothing. But look at what is happening and being accepted by the population of the world, people who call themselves the "faithful" pervert the words and roles of the various prophets of various religions. The prophets told people to worship God but now their words have been re-interpreted to mean to worship them as gods. The God of the Heavens has given way to the gods on earth and even then their "deity" passes into insignificance every day. Even the majority of Satanists don't actually believe in Satan, they just use his name in order to look "wicked".
The only god the maltheist has is himself and his worshippers are the willingly stupid and the morally bankrupt. Spiritualism has given way to money as "anything for a dollar" is the new idiom for life. It is of no consequence how you get rich, you can be a drug dealer and you would be wicked in deed and "wicked" in social standing with no moral judgment passed on you as you have risen in earthly "deity" status by acolytes whose only mantra is "anything for a dollar".
I remember a saying that was associated with the hashashin of Persia... "Nothing is true, All is permitted". And indeed this seems to be the case today, natural order is ignored, good and bad are man made political definitions instead of absolute moral judgments and even then it depends for whose financial benefit they will be made.
That being the case we can apply that to matters not of this world in relation to those of this world. We who are faithful to God both in spirit and in physical being should not only seek to awaken the physical beings of this earth but the non physical as well. We have more in common with the spiritual beings that have traditionly regarded as evil rather than the earthly maltheists.
God does not need our help but I think he likes to see what we will do to impress and please him. People can be content by praying in religious services like parrots repeating the same words week in and week out, but anyone can do that - it does not really convey sincerity. We can do better.
Could we do any worse?
So what do I propose?
We should pray for those spiritual entities that are regarded as evil, if each one of us were to "adopt" one and pray for their reconciliation with God think of the difference it would make to the current man made order that we tolerate on this earth. We would truly rise above the maltheist flotsam and jetsum who for all intents and purposes interfere in our relationship with our Creator. If people are willing to pray for us in our time of trouble and times were we have drifted from God, shouldn't we do the same for others whether they are human or not?
Myself I have adopted two entities, the first being Lilith and the second being Nahema.
Lilith was the first wife of Adam, she rebelled against the natural order established by God. She was the first earthly woman not created from Adams' body (rib), she fled the Garden of Eden rather than being expelled and found company in the likes of the fallen Angels lead by the Satan (Lucifer). She is not like us as she is not under the same judgment of Adam and Eve regarding the expulsion from Eden.
Nahema is a demoness much in the way of Lilith and indeed Abyzou, but all 3 have lost any semblance of guiding mortals to serve evil. Whatever they originally had been set out to do has been hijacked by atheists/maltheists/nihiltheists and have been made redundant.
Were both women inheritantly evil? Most unlikely, but the actions of those who are supposedly acolytes of them certainly are and this has stained their reputations.
Let me put this to you, if you didn't like the actions of the government you live under you might decide to run for office in an election or become an activist. What if you won some sort of office but later discover that those who voted for you and supported you were the absolute scum of society? Would you still take office? Would you quit? Would you simply see it as its better to have someone on your side than no-one?
If enough good people can outnumber and outdo the bad then these two would have no interest in keeping their association with the scum using their names and may even rebuke them in front of the world.
This is what I am seeking to achieve, if this happened then what would the maltheists say or do? What could they do?
Look at it this way, your computer has an operating system and as you add third party programs to it the libraries and registry has to make adjustments to accommodate this software. Eventually the system becomes corrupted by conflicting functions and not to mention malware such as viruses and trojans. The hard drive has to be reformatted and operating system reinstalled for things to function as intended.
I believe we as those of this earth and existence have reached that stage.
There seems to be two types of people on this earth - the corrupted and corruptors, its time to make things right.
Or at least certainly try.
Praise the God of All and praise his aspects and name.
Praise God for his unity is one
Friday, 6 November 2015
The cancer of the earth.... sabbateanism (Part 3)
Though Sabbatai Tzevi could be said to be the centrepiece of this maltheist gnosticism, I do believe it is Simon Magus who is the corner stone of it. It continues because of the world obsession with political correctness which has led to a defacto implementation of talmud based 'Noahide' laws which are nothing to do with any Abrahamic faith or even Noah. The only thing worse than calling a black guy a nigger is to insult a jew, whether directly or indirectly. To question the judgment of a jew in relation to anything that concerns the goyim (whether it be an issue of importance or whether it be trivial) by the goyim is now deemed to be blasphemous.
In some countries to deny or question the holocaust is a criminal offence, and if it is a jew making a complaint against you then you will be found guilty. Even if the complaint is vexatious and has no foundation, this sort of action can be found in the talmud and indeed in Saudi Arabia by wahhabis (wahhabism is said to be a crypto jew cult like donmeh, and if one has to decide whether this is true then the actions of the saudi royals would seem to confirm this).
We have this....
'christian zionism' which is contradictory in name alone, it might as well be called christian atheism. They tithe an atheist state, the existance of which opposes Abrahamic beliefs concerning the endtimes. More concerning is the view of God concerning Judaism, Christianity and Islam, they see it like this....
Jews worship God
Christians worship Jesus
Muslims worship the Moon
Jews worship God - This is an interesting point, as far as xtian zionists (I'm just going to call them xtian as they are not vaguely Christian) no jew can be exempt from 'Gods' blessings and favouritism because they are jewish. Unless a jew renounces judaism then they will be blessed and favoured, it doesnt matter whether or not they are a full blown atheist. To xtian zionists it seems not to be a matter of jews worshipping 'God'(regardless of the definition of God) but rather of God worshipping jews.
The xtian zionist view seems to be the same as the black American 'Nation of Islam' in which all black people collectively are 'Allah'. Whites are all the devil on a collective basis, and looking at the jewish propagation of non white immigration into Europe could we not say that it is the same creed being upheld by different people?
But we are dealing with the xtian zionist belief in which the acolytes of this belief, if successful will lead themselves into servitude to people who are only jewish by their maternal bloodline. Whether or not they have any spiritual beliefs (which could be anything) they are deemed 'the chosen'. Xtian Zionism by default propagates the 'tebhel jew' caste system, which is to be a royal caste system on a global basis.
Indeed.... it seems like a ripoff concerning ancient Egyptian society.
Christians worship Jesus - You can read different things into this xtian zionist version of this belief. If xtian zionists believe that only jews worship 'God' then what is Jesus? Is he deemed a lesser god for a lesser caste? Either he is a lesser god or xtian zionists believe in duo/heno theism which implies that the God of the Jews and Jesus Christ are completely unrelated entities and are not of the same essence. Well maybe they are, if the beliefs of xtian zionists are to bless the jewish people and Israel before praising Jesus then they would be. And thus it is, because observing the actions of xtian zionists would certainly indicate this. They see jews collectively as 'god' because they see every individual jew as being a higher being regardless of spiritual belief. They probably only see Jesus in a godlike role because he was born of a israelite/jewish mother but went against the established judaism of the time, thus he is just a 'tebhel jew' and because of that he failed in the Cheled department and this failure was passed on to the goyim.
Thus the xtian zionists see their purpose is to make up for the disruption Jesus caused by becoming 'spiritual jews' where the bloodline is not a matter of importance. Actually when looking upon it, this is sort of a 'Lucifer turned bad and hopes for redemption with the other demons' type story. Xtian zionism is a creed of gnosticism and chiliasm, it is in no way an Abrahamic faith but rather a willing slave servant to Sabbateanism.
Muslims worship the Moon - I dont think xtian zionists ever question this belief, really all they do is go off what is said by Israel which a stooge like John Hagee will reinterpret and issue as an order for his stooges. I doubt very much that the likes of Darby and Scofield really had a longterm plan for this. This indicates that they were more interested in propagating a gnostic belief rather than a Christian one. Either way they scored a victory for zionism but enticing people in and corrupting (if not reversing) their ideal of Christianity, Jesus and indeed the God of Abraham.
Just for the record I dont believe Muslims worship the Moon.
In some countries to deny or question the holocaust is a criminal offence, and if it is a jew making a complaint against you then you will be found guilty. Even if the complaint is vexatious and has no foundation, this sort of action can be found in the talmud and indeed in Saudi Arabia by wahhabis (wahhabism is said to be a crypto jew cult like donmeh, and if one has to decide whether this is true then the actions of the saudi royals would seem to confirm this).
We have this....
'christian zionism' which is contradictory in name alone, it might as well be called christian atheism. They tithe an atheist state, the existance of which opposes Abrahamic beliefs concerning the endtimes. More concerning is the view of God concerning Judaism, Christianity and Islam, they see it like this....
Jews worship God
Christians worship Jesus
Muslims worship the Moon
Jews worship God - This is an interesting point, as far as xtian zionists (I'm just going to call them xtian as they are not vaguely Christian) no jew can be exempt from 'Gods' blessings and favouritism because they are jewish. Unless a jew renounces judaism then they will be blessed and favoured, it doesnt matter whether or not they are a full blown atheist. To xtian zionists it seems not to be a matter of jews worshipping 'God'(regardless of the definition of God) but rather of God worshipping jews.
The xtian zionist view seems to be the same as the black American 'Nation of Islam' in which all black people collectively are 'Allah'. Whites are all the devil on a collective basis, and looking at the jewish propagation of non white immigration into Europe could we not say that it is the same creed being upheld by different people?
But we are dealing with the xtian zionist belief in which the acolytes of this belief, if successful will lead themselves into servitude to people who are only jewish by their maternal bloodline. Whether or not they have any spiritual beliefs (which could be anything) they are deemed 'the chosen'. Xtian Zionism by default propagates the 'tebhel jew' caste system, which is to be a royal caste system on a global basis.
Indeed.... it seems like a ripoff concerning ancient Egyptian society.
Christians worship Jesus - You can read different things into this xtian zionist version of this belief. If xtian zionists believe that only jews worship 'God' then what is Jesus? Is he deemed a lesser god for a lesser caste? Either he is a lesser god or xtian zionists believe in duo/heno theism which implies that the God of the Jews and Jesus Christ are completely unrelated entities and are not of the same essence. Well maybe they are, if the beliefs of xtian zionists are to bless the jewish people and Israel before praising Jesus then they would be. And thus it is, because observing the actions of xtian zionists would certainly indicate this. They see jews collectively as 'god' because they see every individual jew as being a higher being regardless of spiritual belief. They probably only see Jesus in a godlike role because he was born of a israelite/jewish mother but went against the established judaism of the time, thus he is just a 'tebhel jew' and because of that he failed in the Cheled department and this failure was passed on to the goyim.
Thus the xtian zionists see their purpose is to make up for the disruption Jesus caused by becoming 'spiritual jews' where the bloodline is not a matter of importance. Actually when looking upon it, this is sort of a 'Lucifer turned bad and hopes for redemption with the other demons' type story. Xtian zionism is a creed of gnosticism and chiliasm, it is in no way an Abrahamic faith but rather a willing slave servant to Sabbateanism.
Muslims worship the Moon - I dont think xtian zionists ever question this belief, really all they do is go off what is said by Israel which a stooge like John Hagee will reinterpret and issue as an order for his stooges. I doubt very much that the likes of Darby and Scofield really had a longterm plan for this. This indicates that they were more interested in propagating a gnostic belief rather than a Christian one. Either way they scored a victory for zionism but enticing people in and corrupting (if not reversing) their ideal of Christianity, Jesus and indeed the God of Abraham.
Just for the record I dont believe Muslims worship the Moon.
Thursday, 5 November 2015
The cancer of the earth.... sabbateanism (Part 2)
From wikipedia......
In Jewish history during the two centuries after Zevi's death in 1676, many Jews (including some Jewish scholars) who were horrified by Zevi's personal conversion to Islam nevertheless clung to the belief that Zevi was still the true Jewish Messiah. They constituted the largest number of Sabbateans during the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. They were vigorously opposed and were eventually forced into hiding their beliefs by the methodical opposition of almost all the leading rabbis who were determined to root out Zevi's kabbalistically derived anti-traditional teachings and his influence upon the Jewish masses.
By the nineteenth century Jewish Sabbateans had been reduced to small groups of hidden followers who feared being discovered for their beliefs that were deemed to be entirely heretical and antithetical to classical Judaism (particularly since the head of the movement, Zevi, had become an openly practicing Muslim for the last ten years of his life until the time of his mysterious and premature death at the age of fifty.)
Unlike most cults which die out when their leader dies, Sabbateanism continued on. What happened next proved that Sabbateanism was not an Abrahamic faith nor was it even vaguely Mosaic..... Lo and behold! Sabbatai Tzevi was reborn! And he was back with a vengance...
From wikipedia......
Frankism, a Jewish religious movement of the 18th and 19th centuries, centered on the leadership of the Jewish Messiah claimant Jacob Frank, who lived from 1726 to 1791. At its height it claimed perhaps 50,000 followers, primarily Jews living in Poland and other parts of Eastern Europe. Unlike traditional Judaism, which provides a set of detailed guidelines called halakha that are scrupulously followed by observant Jews and regulate many aspects of life, Frank claimed that "all laws and teachings will fall" and following antinomianism asserted that one's most important personal obligation of every person was the transgression of every boundary.
So somehow Sabbatai Tzevi managed to reincarnate himself as Jacob Frank with basically the same pitch aimed at the same audience. It could no longer be said that this was just a sect of Judaism or even an Abrahamic faith, it was quite the opposite. What Frank was doing was ramping up a reversal of order within Judaism as set up by Sabbatai Tzevi and indeed Nathan of Gaza and even before them. It is quite obvious to all that this is full blown gnostic maltheism, as for Jacob Frank he went on spreading his apostasy and when he died his daughter Eva Frank tried to keep up the cult posing as a Virgin Mary type impersonator. She lived a lush life and died owing 3 million guilders.
Tzevi and Frank are dead but the well was fatally poisoned.
So we have the following- gnosticism, Tree of Death kabbalah, maltheism, sorcery, a 'god' which nobody will name, and reincarnation. Whatever these people were following it definitely was not an Abrahamic faith. It also had a hate/envy/imitating for Jesus Christ, this goes wayback to when Jesus was on earth.
Enter Simon Magus - a Samaritan sorceror who was peddling his services for money when Jesus was preaching. Indeed after Jesus was crucified he was baptised because he wanted to be able to perform the miracles that Jesus did, he even offered money to the apostles and their assistants for the 'secrets' of the 'magic'. Hence the word 'simony' for such an act.
Nevertheless Magus was able to impress all with his sorcery, but could not do his stuff against Christians and failed to get anywhere near the level of Jesus. He still managed to get himself labelled as a god by the Romans, so one cannot say he was a rank amateur.
More telling is that he is counted among the ranks of the Gnostics and it can be assumed that his 'magic power' came from an unnamed god.
So with gnosticism (which is a knowledge pool if anything) there is an undefined set or even lack of beliefs in which anything goes (Hasan of Alamut said "Nothing is true, all is permitted"). So we can have reincarnation, messiahship, magic, sorcery, etc. but if it is based on kabbalah using the Tree of Death then it can only be applicable in Assiah.
In Jewish history during the two centuries after Zevi's death in 1676, many Jews (including some Jewish scholars) who were horrified by Zevi's personal conversion to Islam nevertheless clung to the belief that Zevi was still the true Jewish Messiah. They constituted the largest number of Sabbateans during the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. They were vigorously opposed and were eventually forced into hiding their beliefs by the methodical opposition of almost all the leading rabbis who were determined to root out Zevi's kabbalistically derived anti-traditional teachings and his influence upon the Jewish masses.
By the nineteenth century Jewish Sabbateans had been reduced to small groups of hidden followers who feared being discovered for their beliefs that were deemed to be entirely heretical and antithetical to classical Judaism (particularly since the head of the movement, Zevi, had become an openly practicing Muslim for the last ten years of his life until the time of his mysterious and premature death at the age of fifty.)
Unlike most cults which die out when their leader dies, Sabbateanism continued on. What happened next proved that Sabbateanism was not an Abrahamic faith nor was it even vaguely Mosaic..... Lo and behold! Sabbatai Tzevi was reborn! And he was back with a vengance...
From wikipedia......
Frankism, a Jewish religious movement of the 18th and 19th centuries, centered on the leadership of the Jewish Messiah claimant Jacob Frank, who lived from 1726 to 1791. At its height it claimed perhaps 50,000 followers, primarily Jews living in Poland and other parts of Eastern Europe. Unlike traditional Judaism, which provides a set of detailed guidelines called halakha that are scrupulously followed by observant Jews and regulate many aspects of life, Frank claimed that "all laws and teachings will fall" and following antinomianism asserted that one's most important personal obligation of every person was the transgression of every boundary.
So somehow Sabbatai Tzevi managed to reincarnate himself as Jacob Frank with basically the same pitch aimed at the same audience. It could no longer be said that this was just a sect of Judaism or even an Abrahamic faith, it was quite the opposite. What Frank was doing was ramping up a reversal of order within Judaism as set up by Sabbatai Tzevi and indeed Nathan of Gaza and even before them. It is quite obvious to all that this is full blown gnostic maltheism, as for Jacob Frank he went on spreading his apostasy and when he died his daughter Eva Frank tried to keep up the cult posing as a Virgin Mary type impersonator. She lived a lush life and died owing 3 million guilders.
Tzevi and Frank are dead but the well was fatally poisoned.
So we have the following- gnosticism, Tree of Death kabbalah, maltheism, sorcery, a 'god' which nobody will name, and reincarnation. Whatever these people were following it definitely was not an Abrahamic faith. It also had a hate/envy/imitating for Jesus Christ, this goes wayback to when Jesus was on earth.
Enter Simon Magus - a Samaritan sorceror who was peddling his services for money when Jesus was preaching. Indeed after Jesus was crucified he was baptised because he wanted to be able to perform the miracles that Jesus did, he even offered money to the apostles and their assistants for the 'secrets' of the 'magic'. Hence the word 'simony' for such an act.
Nevertheless Magus was able to impress all with his sorcery, but could not do his stuff against Christians and failed to get anywhere near the level of Jesus. He still managed to get himself labelled as a god by the Romans, so one cannot say he was a rank amateur.
More telling is that he is counted among the ranks of the Gnostics and it can be assumed that his 'magic power' came from an unnamed god.
So with gnosticism (which is a knowledge pool if anything) there is an undefined set or even lack of beliefs in which anything goes (Hasan of Alamut said "Nothing is true, all is permitted"). So we can have reincarnation, messiahship, magic, sorcery, etc. but if it is based on kabbalah using the Tree of Death then it can only be applicable in Assiah.
The cancer of the earth.... sabbateanism (Part 1)
As this world goes into freefall with the stupid directing the flow of traffic in society, we have to examine how this came about and why the Tree of Death is now the tree of the kabbalah in Assiah instead of the Tree of Life. With the Tree of Death the virtues and vices of the Tree of Life are reversed and as we are in Assiah (the world of action) they are being applied in realtime.
We can see this everyday, your right to discriminate about the company you keep is outlawed by 'anti discrimination' laws, you have the catchcry of 'antisemitism' concerning any dispute between a 'jew' and a gentile even though 99.9% of jews are not semites. Queers getting married even though marriage was never meant to be applied to them, pedophiles now being renamed as 'minor attracted adults' and so on.
We are seeing a reversal of order in realtime, a lot of people blame the jews but todays' jews are not descendants of Moses and 95% of these people do not practice any faith resembling that of ancient Judaism (Mosaic faith) but are divided between atheists, pantheists and tribal bloodline 'christians' (as well as other religions). Ultra orthodox judaists should be the only ones who can call themselves jews, the others should just call themselves tribal gypsies because apart from being of a 'jewish' mother they have no real connection to anything remotely semitic.
But I cannot just say that Judaism has this problem, apostasy has spread to Christianity and Islam. In Christianity we have 'christian zionism' where the fools who follow it believe in blessing jews and israel (even though they hate Jesus) as a priority over worshipping Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth. And in Islam we have the wahhabi apostasy where abandoning wahhabism is worthy of losing your head (but being atheist is neither here or there, as long as you identify as a wahhabi then its OK).
So we have the 3 primary Abrahamic faiths are under attack from within, you may be wondering how all this came about? Well.... I'm not 2K years old and havent seen everything thats happened, I can only give you my deduction and opinion so here it is.
What is commonly known as Sabbateanism is a maltheist gnostic creed, it is a mish mash of religious history from Judaism and Christianity and indeed as well as Islam.
Considering that the jews of that time (1600s and indeed onwards to today) are the descendants of converts from Europe, the Caucasus and Nth Africa there is no doubt that local practices to the people from those areas became absorbed into their version/sect of Judaism (Askhenazi, Sephardic, etc.) Everything from the opinions of rabbis in the Babylonian Talmud, to bits and pieces of both the Old and New Testaments and probably the Koran as well, to rumours and old wives tales were brought together. And it still happens and this can be seen with splits within judaism, with maternal bloodline deciding on who can enter the synagogue rather than spiritual belief (as evident with the refusal of most synagogues to expel atheists who are open and public of their belief or lack of)
Lets deal with Sabbateanism, I'll use this from Wikipedia.
Sabbateans (Sabbatians) is a complex general term that refers to a variety of followers of, disciples and believers in Sabbatai Zevi (1626–1676), a Jewish rabbi who was proclaimed to be the Jewish Messiah in 1665 by Nathan of Gaza. Vast numbers of Jews in the Jewish diaspora accepted his claims, even after he became a Jewish apostate with his conversion to Islam in 1666. Sabbatai Zevi's followers, both during his "Messiahship" and after his conversion to Islam, are known as Sabbateans. They can be grouped into three: "Maaminim" (believers), "Haberim" (associates), and "Ba'ale Milhamah" (warriors).
Actually it was Nathan of Gaza who proclaimed him to be the 'jewish messiah' (non jews need not apply for salvation). Sabbatai Tzevi reportedly knew he was the messiah but 'waited' for Nathan to proclaim him as such. Nathan reportedly was told that Tzevi was the messiah in a vision, by who? I dont think it was ever said, but apparantely neither knew each other before all this came about. This gives me 2 questions...
1. How did Nathan have this vision?
2. Why didnt Tzevi seek to be the saviour of all?
Possible answers I have...
1. Unless both Nathan and Tzevi did actually know each other but kept it all secret in order to pull a cult scam on other jews, then it could be that Nathan was a practitioner of kabbalah. In fact they would both need to be practitioners and indeed kabbalah did/does play a significant part in Sabbateanism, and if they were into kabbalah one has to ask were they using the Tree of Life or the Tree of Death?
The only world where both the Tree of Life and the Tree of Death exist is in Assiah (world of action or material world) and I strongly suspect it was the Tree of Death which is a demonic imitation of the Tree of Life. This would explain the base behaviour of the Sabbatean adherants, their atheism and lack of spirituality (as is evident in synagogues today) and their materialistic driven lusts.
Could Nathan have 'encountered' Tzevi during pathworking on the Tree of Death before actually meeting him physically? ...it is quite possible....
2. Tzevi and Nathan didnt try to push themselves onto Christians and Muslims because they couldnt. Their act was just a ripoff of Jesus Christ and John the Baptist, it would have failed and authorities would have begun an investigation into their practices and methods.
They were not ordained by God.
Tzevi renounced his messiahship under the threat of death from the Turkish sultan, now if he was really the messiah wouldnt he have been prepared to face death than renounce his God ordained mission? Didnt Jesus Christ face a similar situation?
But then again who was Tzevis' 'god'?
So Tzevi became a muslim and took his followers to 'convert' as well, they became what are known as Donmeh Muslims. They were/are muslims in name only and only worship among themselves.
However this is not without precedent, jews in Spain 'converted' to Christianity in order to not be expelled with the Moors. These jews were really 'crypto-jews' and are known as
Marranos and like the Donmeh are seeking to be officially recognised as Judaists... even though they are not.
NB: The ultra orthodox judaists opposes their recognition and they consider both to be practising a perverted form of Christianity. Marranos and Donmeh are also known for their 'atheism' but consider themselves jews because of maternal bloodline.
We can see this everyday, your right to discriminate about the company you keep is outlawed by 'anti discrimination' laws, you have the catchcry of 'antisemitism' concerning any dispute between a 'jew' and a gentile even though 99.9% of jews are not semites. Queers getting married even though marriage was never meant to be applied to them, pedophiles now being renamed as 'minor attracted adults' and so on.
We are seeing a reversal of order in realtime, a lot of people blame the jews but todays' jews are not descendants of Moses and 95% of these people do not practice any faith resembling that of ancient Judaism (Mosaic faith) but are divided between atheists, pantheists and tribal bloodline 'christians' (as well as other religions). Ultra orthodox judaists should be the only ones who can call themselves jews, the others should just call themselves tribal gypsies because apart from being of a 'jewish' mother they have no real connection to anything remotely semitic.
But I cannot just say that Judaism has this problem, apostasy has spread to Christianity and Islam. In Christianity we have 'christian zionism' where the fools who follow it believe in blessing jews and israel (even though they hate Jesus) as a priority over worshipping Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth. And in Islam we have the wahhabi apostasy where abandoning wahhabism is worthy of losing your head (but being atheist is neither here or there, as long as you identify as a wahhabi then its OK).
So we have the 3 primary Abrahamic faiths are under attack from within, you may be wondering how all this came about? Well.... I'm not 2K years old and havent seen everything thats happened, I can only give you my deduction and opinion so here it is.
What is commonly known as Sabbateanism is a maltheist gnostic creed, it is a mish mash of religious history from Judaism and Christianity and indeed as well as Islam.
Considering that the jews of that time (1600s and indeed onwards to today) are the descendants of converts from Europe, the Caucasus and Nth Africa there is no doubt that local practices to the people from those areas became absorbed into their version/sect of Judaism (Askhenazi, Sephardic, etc.) Everything from the opinions of rabbis in the Babylonian Talmud, to bits and pieces of both the Old and New Testaments and probably the Koran as well, to rumours and old wives tales were brought together. And it still happens and this can be seen with splits within judaism, with maternal bloodline deciding on who can enter the synagogue rather than spiritual belief (as evident with the refusal of most synagogues to expel atheists who are open and public of their belief or lack of)
Lets deal with Sabbateanism, I'll use this from Wikipedia.
Sabbateans (Sabbatians) is a complex general term that refers to a variety of followers of, disciples and believers in Sabbatai Zevi (1626–1676), a Jewish rabbi who was proclaimed to be the Jewish Messiah in 1665 by Nathan of Gaza. Vast numbers of Jews in the Jewish diaspora accepted his claims, even after he became a Jewish apostate with his conversion to Islam in 1666. Sabbatai Zevi's followers, both during his "Messiahship" and after his conversion to Islam, are known as Sabbateans. They can be grouped into three: "Maaminim" (believers), "Haberim" (associates), and "Ba'ale Milhamah" (warriors).
Actually it was Nathan of Gaza who proclaimed him to be the 'jewish messiah' (non jews need not apply for salvation). Sabbatai Tzevi reportedly knew he was the messiah but 'waited' for Nathan to proclaim him as such. Nathan reportedly was told that Tzevi was the messiah in a vision, by who? I dont think it was ever said, but apparantely neither knew each other before all this came about. This gives me 2 questions...
1. How did Nathan have this vision?
2. Why didnt Tzevi seek to be the saviour of all?
Possible answers I have...
1. Unless both Nathan and Tzevi did actually know each other but kept it all secret in order to pull a cult scam on other jews, then it could be that Nathan was a practitioner of kabbalah. In fact they would both need to be practitioners and indeed kabbalah did/does play a significant part in Sabbateanism, and if they were into kabbalah one has to ask were they using the Tree of Life or the Tree of Death?
The only world where both the Tree of Life and the Tree of Death exist is in Assiah (world of action or material world) and I strongly suspect it was the Tree of Death which is a demonic imitation of the Tree of Life. This would explain the base behaviour of the Sabbatean adherants, their atheism and lack of spirituality (as is evident in synagogues today) and their materialistic driven lusts.
Could Nathan have 'encountered' Tzevi during pathworking on the Tree of Death before actually meeting him physically? ...it is quite possible....
2. Tzevi and Nathan didnt try to push themselves onto Christians and Muslims because they couldnt. Their act was just a ripoff of Jesus Christ and John the Baptist, it would have failed and authorities would have begun an investigation into their practices and methods.
They were not ordained by God.
Tzevi renounced his messiahship under the threat of death from the Turkish sultan, now if he was really the messiah wouldnt he have been prepared to face death than renounce his God ordained mission? Didnt Jesus Christ face a similar situation?
But then again who was Tzevis' 'god'?
So Tzevi became a muslim and took his followers to 'convert' as well, they became what are known as Donmeh Muslims. They were/are muslims in name only and only worship among themselves.
However this is not without precedent, jews in Spain 'converted' to Christianity in order to not be expelled with the Moors. These jews were really 'crypto-jews' and are known as
Marranos and like the Donmeh are seeking to be officially recognised as Judaists... even though they are not.
NB: The ultra orthodox judaists opposes their recognition and they consider both to be practising a perverted form of Christianity. Marranos and Donmeh are also known for their 'atheism' but consider themselves jews because of maternal bloodline.
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