Showing posts with label atziluth. Show all posts
Showing posts with label atziluth. Show all posts

Wednesday, 30 October 2019

Maybe for a new book??





I'm just posting some stuff that I will probably put in a book I'm writing... give me feedback if you want... Enjoy!!!!!
 
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How magic works
It would be unfair of me not to tell you any aspect of how I learned, understood and used magic in my life. After all unless I told you everything I know and actually did, then the story that I’ve told you would not add up.


So in this chapter I will be trying to explain to you the more metaphysical aspects in relation to this world (and the worlds that we know of). In order to do that I will try to give you a crash course of some aspects of kabbalah, so just indulge me a little. I never was a practitioner of “practical kabbalah” in its pure orthodox form, probably because I felt I had been soiled and was not worthy to touch it. Still I used various aspects of it in my preferred practice of the Shem Ha-Mephorash.


It is worth your while to learn about kabbalah to gain a greater picture about the way things are. To me kabbalah is both an occult system and philosophy for independent rational thinking; it takes Jehovah and uses archetypes to illustrate his various aspects. Much like you may be known by different names and titles in different circumstances but at the end of the day you are the same person. These archetypes are symbolically linked to the Sephiroth (spheres) that are present in what is generally called the “Tree of Life” (or more accurately the Tree of Life and Death of the knowledge of Good and Evil). To explain it another way, the Sephiroth are to the kabbalah as the planets are to astrology.


Kabbalistic magic can incorporate planetary magic and astrology, but this is not mandatory. Planets by themselves don’t affect anything – they are inanimate objects. However they are used to measure cycles in the same way the Sun and orbit of both the Earth and Moon are used to measure time. Just like our star signs are measured by alignments and orbits of certain planets, they cannot be replicated by any other means. After all, are not the days of the week named after various “gods” and their aspects which are symbolised by planets? In addition to star signs and days there are herbs, colours, incense, emotions, hours and even angels and demons that are deemed to be symbolically governed by planets.
The general teaching about kabbalah goes something like this; there are ten individual sephira that are in a specific top to bottom order of ranking on the Tree of Life.
1. Kether.
2. Chokmah.
3. Binah.
4. Chesed.
5. Geburah.
6. Tiphareth.
7. Netzach.
8. Hod.
9. Yesod.
10. Malkuth.


Kether is the top of the tree and Malkuth is the bottom where the tree meets the earth (Malkuth means kingdom). Now the tree is divided into 3 columns –left, middle and right, or feminine, neutral and masculine, or even negative, neutral and positive. I’ll use the positive/negative classification, when I use the term negative I don’t mean in the evil way. Think of it in electrical terms with neutral as the earthing wire.
Binah, Geburah and Hod are in the negative column.
Chokmah, Chesed and Netzach are in the positive column.
Kether, Tiphareth, Yesod and Malkuth are in the neutral column.


Once you place the sephiroth in ranking and in their columns you will see that it forms a lightening bolt type diagram if traced from top to bottom. This is how magic from the kabbalah works, it comes from the sephira from which you work in because of its characteristics and earths itself into this world by Malkuth. All of the sephiroth have virtues and vices apart from Kether and Chokmah which do not have vices. The kabbalah is about balance as is shown by the order of the tree. It is good for a society to have a spirit of freedom amongst its people, but too much freedom will eventually lead to a lack of it when some members of that society believe they are free to take away others freedom. Virtues become vices when overused; this is why balance is extremely important regarding kabbalah and the tree.


Kabbalah magic is generally performed by the magician in the world of Briah. This is the realm of the Archangels and this is done by using colours and symbols of the particular sephira corresponding to that world. So the magician is making a symbolic connection between the Archangels’ world (Briah) and his world (Assiah). If the magic ritual is performed correctly it will pass from Briah (Creation) through Yetzirah (Formation) to Assiah (Physical). Each world functions according to the tree model, so try to imagine that magic works roughly like the power passing through serial bulbs on the Christmas tree lights.


But there are 4 worlds – not 3: the highest world (in using the word “world” I mean to describe a plane of existence) is called Atziluth. This is a world of pure spirit and comes under the direct personal rulership of Jehovah himself. I suppose I would describe it as the world of spiritual intellect as I haven’t found or can convey a better description. I’ll try this to help you understand where I’m coming from.

OK, picture a place like a shop or similar that you know of and regularly visit and let’s make it a reasonable distance away, say 5 miles. Now how long would it take you to get there and enter the premises? So starting from the time you get out of your chair to the time you get into the shop (and if you are driving you have to consider traffic and parking), how long would it take? Let’s say 20 minutes for arguments sake, but I bet that you have already pictured that entire journey in your mind by the time that you have read this. How long did that take? Twenty seconds?


If you went to that shop it would be because you had a need (we can use a pharmacy for example). So you had a need (Atziluth) and pictured how that need could be fulfilled (Briah), you then pictured how to bring that fulfilled need to you practically (Yetzirah) and then had the need fulfilled in the physical (Assiah). Or in other words you were at home feeling sick, realised that the pharmacy sold something that would help you so you drove there to buy what you needed and then drove home to take the medicine and feel better. All this went through your mind within a few seconds and yet you had not moved an inch from your chair while moaning and holding your stomach.


You are physically in Assiah and yet you have the spirituality and intellect to access the other worlds in due order, it is a continuous cycle of thinking and indeed being. Don’t let any godless fuck tell you otherwise.


 Back to the sephiroth, now I’ll make things a bit more complicated. There are four sephiroth I will now mention, they are not usually considered in general cabbalistic magic because they are not “workable” by magicians. One of them is called Daath; it separates the top three sephiroth (Kether, Chokmah and Binah) from the rest of the tree. It functions as a type of “firewall” to separate the “holy trinity” sephiroth from the not-so-holy others. It is usually referred to as the abyss in that once you cross over an abyss you go up a level as compared to anything to have gone through before. I myself don’t find it to be especially true, but then again that’s just me.
Above Kether are the other three sephiroth, again ranked from highest to lowest.


1. Ain (Nothingness). [En]
2. Ain Soph (Limitlessness). [En Sof]
3. Ain Soph Aur (Limitless Light). [En Sof Or]
These sephiroth are truly the most abstract concept, all three are degrees of negative existence. Trying to demonstrate the sephira of Ain is essentially trying to give an example on the negative existence of nothingness. Although I have heard about magicians trying to work in Ain Soph Aur, as far as I know there is no ritual that has ever worked. These three sephiroth are beyond the comprehension of the human mind. Don’t confuse the negative existence of those 3 sephira with the negative existence with the likes of Satan. With these sephira there is nothing to corrupt or pervert because there is nothing to pervert or corrupt, there is no form within them - these are realms of void.

Now we move onto the four planes of existence and whose' realm they are;
1. Atziluth –the plane of spirit, the realm of God.
2. Briah –the plane of creation, the realm of Archangels.
3. Yetzirah –the plane of formation, the realm of Angels.
4. Assiah –the plane of the physical world, the realm of ourselves and demons.


As I’ve shown before these four planes work together in all things in a type of circular cycle. When we have a need for something we are thinking (whether you actually think in Atziluth is another thing, it is just a case of your intellect telling your body) in the plane of Atziluth. From there we have a concept of what we want in Briah and from there we formulate how we can acquire that need in Yetzirah, the plans so to speak. The result is what we get in Assiah, the non-physical becomes physical and then it starts all over again. Satanism doesn’t deal with the first three planes, it can’t. What you should realise is that Satan cannot actually create; he can only use what’s available to everyone else. Yes he can cause you to get what you want but it actually wasn’t his in the first place, essentially he is a pay per order thief. Satanism strictly operates within our physical world although there is a spiritual/metaphysical impetus behind it.
Now I’ll try to explain where Satan and his demons come into it. Satan was an Archangel, his world was Briah but he along with his followers were expelled into our world Assiah. This world is just as much his world as it is ours, but for him it is a prison. As he is no longer in Briah therefore he cannot create (fact is only God can bring forth creation from the void), nor is he a human. His existence in this world is essentially a negative existence, much like a shadow.
So let’s take an overview of this world which is Assiah, the physical plane which includes the universe and all within it. We humans are a neutral existence; we have the ability to be good (positive) or evil (negative) but our natural state is to be balanced between the two (neutral). There is also Jehovah who is beyond good and evil, his world is Atziluth the world of pure spirit. He acts upon this world through his Archangels whose world is Briah, the world of creation. Creation is the positive aspect of existence and our link to this world is made possible by our faith and practices relating to our faith.


Then we have Satan and his demons that are the negative aspect, they are in this world because they have no choice. In all of this there is a model for balance in Assiah, but if faith in creation is destroyed the scale will tip in favour of the negative. The negative in itself cannot create, it can only pervert. You might be tempted to look at the negative column of the Tree of Life and take a sephirah like Binah and see it in the same (lack of) light, but the sephirah is balanced because it has a virtuous side as well as a vice side. It is balanced as the tree itself is balanced, sure you can take one of the lesser parts and declare it to be negative but you will find it has an opposite which complements it and makes it balanced.


The only 2 sephiroth that do not have a vice are Kether and Chokmah, the former is neutral and the latter is positive. I can just guess and say that once you get into these 2 that you have no need or avenue for vice, but I didn’t make or invent them so I really have no idea as to why they don’t. Ask God not me.


The Tree of Life operates in all 4 worlds insofar as humans can access and use the Tree model in those worlds. So using a sephira such as “Geburah” for example, there is a Geburah of Atziluth as well as a Geburah of Briah, of Yetzirah and Assiah. The characteristics of Geburah doesn’t change, rather it is the application of the characteristics of Geburah as to achieve the desired result by the person practicing the magic.


I'll use this analogy to try and explain the working of magic.
Let's say that there are two people in two different countries using the internet, one is in a developed country and the other is in a third world country. The person in the third world country has a need and uses the internet to try and find a product for that need. The person then finds that the product can be found in a developed country but is unsure if that is the right product, so then that person decides to establish contact with someone in that developed country to ask about that product. The person in the third world country establishes a contact with the person in the developed country and makes an acquaintance of that person. We'll call the person in the third world country -Pedro and the person in the developed country -Mark.
Pedro tells Mark of his problem and asks if he can do something to help. Mark can do something to help but can only go by what Pedro tells him. If Pedro is vague about what he needs then Mark may send him the wrong product or no product at all. If Pedro is rude, demanding or insincere about what he needs then Mark will send him nothing. If Pedro uses a catalogue in reference to what he wants and asks in a polite manner in a way that could not be misinterpreted, then Mark will help but Pedro has to provide some sort of payment as well as a postal address to send the product.


Now put yourself in the position of Pedro and either Jehovah, his Archangels or Angels as Mark. Pedros' request and prayer constitutes a ritual, all prayer is in effect a type of magical ritual. Only when it does succeed does it become "magic" or a "miracle". Just because you contact someone in an advanced country doesn't mean that they are experts in everything. Most prayer fails because people are vague in what they need and they do not provide a means in order to have their need fulfilled (postal address). Addressing your prayers toward "God" whenever you need something and not bothering to pray the rest of the time will not help your cause. I find it distressing when people ask for all sorts of stupid things and when they don't get it blame God for their failings. Stupid stuff such as when people will pray for a new car even though their current car functions okay but just doesn't have a DVD player in it. Or else pray for money in order to go to the casino and just expect it to appear at the end of the bed one morning. In magic we combine the metaphysical as well as the physical, to establish a bridge between the worlds in order to bring creation into this world. Just as you conceive a plan and design to fulfil a need before you make it a physical reality, not vice versa. This is what magic is essentially about.

Saturday, 19 December 2015

Reconcile Lilith & Nahema to GOD (ii)

This is a novena which I have altered as an example what one may do to get things happening. You might come up with something yourself, as long as it aims and serve to help Lilith and Nahema to reconcile with God then that it all that matters.
I would recommend that such prayers be done to the planetary hours of the Moon, but as long as they are said and declared (its not only humans who can hear you say such things) then you are helping, at least its better than nothing.

Novena for Lilith and Nahema

Day 1

O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth who is the aspect of the God of Abraham and indeed the God of All in this world of Assiah, my Saviour I have so often deserved to be cast into hell how great would be my suffering if I were now cast away and obliged to think that I myself had caused my damnation. I thank Thee for the patience with which Thou hast endured me. My God, I love Thee above all things and I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee because Thou art infinite goodness. I will rather die than offend Thee again. Grant me the grace of perseverance. Have pity on me and at the same time on those blessed souls suffering in Purgatory.
I ask that you forgive Lilith and Nahema, that you reconcile them to you. I believe that they can do good for us as they can share their experience with us so we do not have to err into wrongful choice in our existence. We could learn how not to live and how not to offend you through our ignorance, once we learn we have no excuse for evil choices.
Praise be on you Jehovah who is the aspect of God in Briah for you are our creator, you are the only God and there is no other. Praise be upon your name by all existence for all praise is owed to you, there is none who could justify higher praise than you.
I ask for favour O Lord, please reconcile Lilith and Nahema to your will, for your will rules over all. Praise be upon you O God of All in all worlds by all without exception.

Day 2

Woe to me, unhappy being, so many years have I already spent on earth and have earned naught but hell! I give Thee thanks, O Lord, for granting me time even now to atone for my sins. My good God, I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee. Send me Thy assistance, that I may apply the time yet remaining to me for Thy love and service; have compassion on me, and, at the same time, on the Holy Souls suffering in Purgatory.
I pray for Lilith and Nahema, that they will be reconciled to you Jehovah.
O God and Creator of All existence come to their assistance with thy powerful and merciful judgment. You alone are worthy of praise, you are the only God as known and taugh by Abraham.

Day 3

My God! Because Thou art infinite goodness, I love Thee above all things, and repent with my whole heart of my offenses against Thee. Grant me the grace of holy perseverance. Have compassion on me, and, at the same, on the Holy Souls suffering in Purgatory.
I pray for Lilith and Nahema that they be reconciled to you Almighty and only GOD of All without exception. I appeal to your infinite wisdom and mercy that they may be fully in your service and your grace.
Praise be upon you O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth who is the aspect of the God of Abraham and indeed the God of All in this world of Assiah for none other is worthy of worship.

Day 4

My God! because Thou art infinite goodness, I am sorry with my whole heart for having offended Thee. I promise to die rather than ever offend Thee more. Give me holy perseverance; have pity on me, and have pity on those Holy Souls that burn in the cleansing fire and love Thee with all their hearts.
O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth, I ask for your permission that I may address Lilith and Nahema.
To Lilith and Nahema I say - Seek reconciliation with our creator for his mercy is infinite, serve him for he is perfect and pure. Please renounce and correct those who perform despicable cruelty in your names, those who revel in utmost cruelty in your names are not worshippers of yours because they revel in cruelty and corruption.
Cleanse your names and your souls and reconcile with GOD - Jehovah your creator whose mercy allows you to live in this world of Assiah.

Day 5

Woe to me, unhappy being, if Thou, O Lord, hadst cast me into hell; for from that dungeon of eternal pain there is no deliverance. I love Thee above all things, O Infinite God and I am sincerely sorry for having offended Thee again. Grant me the grace of holy perseverance. Have compassion on me, and, at the same time, on the Holy Souls suffering in Purgatory.
O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth, O God of All, come to their assistance. Come to the assistance of Lilith and Nahema with thy powerful love and mercy.

Day 6

My Divine Creator, Thou didst give life and animation to my existence, for I could not be here otherwise and I have repaid Thee only with ingratitude. Now, however, I love Thee above all things, O Supreme God; and I am more grieved at my offences against Thee than at any other evil. I will rather die than offend Thee again. Grant me the grace of holy perseverance. Have compassion on me, and, at the same time, on the Holy Souls suffering in Purgatory.
Have mercy on the lives, animations and souls of Lilith and Nahema.
Grant mercy onto them true and only GOD, for there is none other who could grant them grace, mercy and forgiveness.
Praise be upon you O God of All by all existence, may your name and all your attributes be praised by all without exception for none other deserves such righteous praise.
Hallowed be thy name O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth.
Hallowed be thy name.

Day 7

God, Father of Mercy, satisfy this their ardent desire! Send them Thy holy Angel to announce to them that Thou, their Father, are now reconciled with them through your infinite mercy and righteousness, and that the moment of their deliverance has arrived.
Lilith and Nahema I say to you - Praise your creator and his infite mercy and love. Submit to his will of your own free choice, beg for his mercy and open your hearts.
Praise the name of Jehovah for he is our only GOD and creator in the world of Briah.
I say before us all, praise be upon you and your name Jehovah. I pray to you in good faith.

Day 8

Oh my God! I also am one of these ungrateful beings, having received so much grace, and yet despised Thy love and deserved to be cast by Thee into hell. But Thy Infinite Goodness has spared me until now. Therefore, I now love Thee above all things, and I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee. I will rather die than ever offend Thee. Grant me the grace of holy perseverance. Have compassion on me and, at the same time, on the Holy Souls suffering in Purgatory.
O God the Almighty, true and only God, the one who taught Abraham, come to their aid with thy powerful love and mercy.
To Lilith and Nahema I say - Offer to our and indeed your GOD and creator to atone for your misgivings. For your errors and sins seek to reconcile with GOD by helping others to the path to GOD on this earth.
Praise be upon you O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth, praise be upon your name. May Lilith and Nahema be forgiven and uplifted from the state they are in. Allow them the chance to atone for misgivings, wrongness and sins comitted by them and in their name.
Praise the name of the God of All as known by Abraham and praise be upon his aspects in all worlds - I say to all, for none other is worthy of worship.

Day 9

My God! How was it possible that I, for so many years, have borne tranquilly the separation from Thee and Thy Holy Grace! O Infinite Goodness, how long-suffering hast Thou shown Thyself to me! Henceforth, I shall love Thee above all things. I am deeply sorry for having offended Thee; I promise rather to die than to again offend Thee. Grant me the grace of holy perseverance, and do not permit that I should ever again fall into sin. Have compassion on the Holy Souls in Purgatory.
I pray and petition you O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth the true and only aspect of GOD in this world of Assiah. I pray for Lilith and Nahema
I pray Thee, moderate their sufferings; shorten the time of their misery; call them soon unto Thee in heaven, that they may behold Thee face to face, and forever love Thee.
Jehovah, Lord GOD Almighty Creator of all that exists, has existed and will exist come to their aid with thy powerful intercession, and pray for us also who are still in danger of eternal damnation.
I appeal to your infinite mercy and will, for there is nothing higher than you. I know O Lord that nothing is impossible for you, for as you will then thus it is.
Praise be upon you O God of All, hallowed be thy being.
Praise be upon you O God of All for your mercy and love is infinite and your righteousness in perfect. None could ever hope to surpass thee, for your will and power is infinitely high above that which we could ever have a concept of.

Praise be upon you O Holy Spirit of Atziluth

Praise be upon you O Holy Father the Creator Jehovah of Briah

Praise be upon you O Christ Jesus of Bethlehem and Nazareth of Yetzirah and Assiah

Praise be upon you O God of All, the God of Abraham for you are the only God ever - and ever will be.

Praise be upon you for your unity is one

Lilith and Nahema blessed Souls, I have prayed for thee; I entreat thee, who are so dear to God, and who are secure of never losing Him, to pray for me a miserable sinner, who is in danger of being damned, and of losing God forever.
Amen.

Monday, 23 March 2015

Goetia..... just a bit.....

Chapter 3
Continuing on

The Goetia is an imitation of the Shem ha-Mephorash, as the Shem ha-Mephorash is an order of angels which can be accessed through performing rituals during certain astrological/planetary hours and the use of sigils. The same applies to the Goetia; and as there are 72 angels in the Shem ha-Mephorash the same number of demons can be accessed by the Goetia.

Magic using the Shem ha-Mephorash can be accessed through all four worlds (Atziluth, Briah, Yetzirah and Assiah) but the demons of the Goetia and thus their ‘magic’ can only be accessed in the world of Assiah. So the Goetia does not and cannot exist in Atziluth, Briah and Yetzirah and thus the Shem ha-Mephorash operating in those worlds is not ‘counter balanced’. But the Shem ha-Mephorash is balanced in any event as each angel by default can produce a virtue and a vice, it is what the magician or operator does in ritual that decides the overall result of any ritual petitioning an angel.
In Assiah the Shem ha-Mephorash still operates in the same manner as in the other worlds, the Goetia does operate in a similar manner but there are differences. Let me give an example by comparing the first angel of the Shem ha-Mephorash (Vehuiah) and the first demon of the Goetia (Bael).

Vehuiah:
Positive aspect – Subtle spirit. Endowed with great wisdom, enthusiastic for science and the arts, capable of undertaking and accomplishing the most difficult things.
Negative aspect – Unquiet man, anger.

Bael:
‘Positive’ aspect – Imparts invisibility and ‘wisdom’.
Negative aspect – None is mentioned.

It seems that the angels of the Shem ha-Mephorash are more inclined to do something for you, while the demons of the Goetia are inclined to ‘give’ you something. With the Shem ha-Mephorash it is more a case of them getting you to help yourself, you do a ritual but you also have to make an effort to do something in order to receive the help you are seeking. On the other hand the demons of the Goetia just seem to do a simple exchange much like a transaction, but if you are buying goods from the demons then what are you using as currency?

So we see that in actions with angels that they are balanced with both a virtue and vice within themselves. But with demons they need us to interact with them to get a ‘taste’ of a type of balance and that is why they will offer us a measure of what we desire in Assiah. And in return we will allow them to access our soul, from which they take pieces of our soul ‘essence’, the more they give us then the more they will take away. When they have your soul then your body will follow, if a demon wants a soulless body it is no big deal to take it. This might explain some mental illnesses where people change personality overnight.

Another difference between the angels and demons in these opposing systems is the order of their astrological influence. I‘ll explain it to you, so just bear with me. In both the Shem ha-Mephorash and the Goetia there are 72 individual beings, in the Shem ha-Mephorash there are 72 angels and in the Goetia there are 72 demons. Each angel/demon is accessed by facing a certain direction, so starting due East with the first angel/demon and going clockwise 5 degrees for every angel/demon a complete circle is made (72 x 5 degrees=360 degrees).

As to the astrological influences, these come into it in regards to planetary hours for performing ritual. With the Shem ha-Mephorash the angels are divided into blocks of six in sequence (12 x 6=72), both the Shem ha-Mephorash and Goetia start of with the star sign Aries. In the Shem ha-Mephorash the first six angels are under Aries, the next six are under Taurus and so on. With the Goetia it differs; the first, second and third demons are under the Aries sign but also the demons on the ‘opposite’ side of the circle (37th, 38th and 39th). I can only take this as it is the only way that the circle can keep a balance as it seems to be disruptive if there are ‘opposing’ star signs. Whereas the circle of the Shem ha-Mephorash is continually in balance regardless of which star sign faces the other in the circle.

Saturday, 10 January 2015

God in 4 worlds

An idea popped in my head or really more of a concept.
That being the Christian concept of a trinitarian God can be spread over the 4 worlds, each with their own independance/autonomy and yet be a continuous line.

So for Atziluth (emanation) the purely spiritual world you would have the Holy Spirit

For Briah (creation) you would have God the Father, after all did not creation as WE know it come from him?
We do not know all creation, for most people they only know (or choose to know) what they can physically experience.

For Yetzirah (formation) you would have the Christ aspect of Jesus, a spiritual 'being' or persona (from the Holy Spirit) 'fashioned' (by God the Father) and given a destiny/ specific purpose in this particular world and thus it is all set

For Assiah (world of action/ physical world) you would need a physical body of a human in order for the above fashioned spirit to 'live the message' whereas an angel can only convey a message.

And thus the end result is Christ Jesus of Nazareth who has autonomy from both the Holy Spirit and God the Father (as evident when satan tried to tempt him)

And there are things I cant deny such as the Shem ha-Mephorash having angels that deal with Christianity, miracles occuring on behalf of the saints etc. I think Christ Jesus of Nazareth is a cut above the people of this earth in this world. There is also the issue of Christian Kabbalah.

If you were to define God as one continuous essence without beginning or end that simultaneously exists in all 4 worlds, the 3 negative veils and beyond (and thats only that we know of) then how do we explain how the 3 'personages' came into being? The same could be said for the 10 aspects of the Tree of Life and their respective God personas.
I dont think it will ever be satisfactory explained with the language that humans possess at this current time, but.... maybe it was never meant to be explained to us. They are just forms/personas of God that he presents because they are the only ones we can relate to.

I tend to look at it this way... you have the seas/oceans of this earth, they have different names and different qualities.
Some are freshwater, some are salt water, some are deeper than others and so on. But they actually are a continuous body of water, above them are the sky and clouds but above that is the moon which controls the tides.
While I just wrote about the 4 worlds there is the factor of the 3 negative veils...but what is beyond them?
I dont think we as human beings will ever begin to comprehend or explain that, I dont think such concepts have ever entered into the consciousness of any man or into the combined consciousness of mankind at any time from Adam onwards.

I suppose you could come up with a mathematical formula to explain the value of each member of the Trinity and Tree of Life by using a square root symbol √

So the value of the any individual aspect within the Trinity would be √3 and any individual aspect within the Tree of Life would be √10 because no individual aspect is greater than the others and yet are a base aspect for the whole....if that makes rational sense......just making mathematical theory from this....

As long as the concept is able to be explained, comprehended and allows for further discussion it is all that matters.