It has been a while since I've posted, but I will post this even though Christian Science does not believe in the existance of Satan per se; it does believe in the evil of atheism and opposes it.
Atheism is in deed evil and is used in the service of Moloch.
Part1
Christian Science: Its Triumph Over Atheism and Idolatry - 1958
Robert S. Van Atta, C.S., of Rochester, New York
Member of the Board of Lectureship of The Mother Church, The First Church of Christ, Scientist, in Boston, Massachusetts
The free world can triumph over aggressive atheism by living the teachings of Christ Jesus more
honestly, Robert S. Van Atta of Rochester, New York, told an audience here Tuesday evening, Nov. 4th.
He said that the questions facing modern thinkers demand answers which go far beyond the confines of human wisdom, that the spiritual understanding of God, and man's relation to Him – put into daily practice – is "the world's hope for freedom from uncertainty, terror and ignorance." The impact of such understanding on world thinking should never be underestimated, he added.
Currently on an extended tour as a member of the Christian Science Board of Lectureship, Mr. Van Atta spoke under the auspices of First Church of Christ, Scientist in their Church edifice at Spring Lane and Engle street. The lecturer was introduced by Mrs. Lorena Oberman of Tenafly, a former Reader in a Christian Science branch church.
The lecturer spoke substantially as follows:
The broadcast powers of evil, so conspicuous today, are challenging the forces of Christianity in a bid for final supremacy. We live in the midst of a mighty revolution. The complacency of the nineteenth century has been succeeded by the turmoil of the twentieth. Long-established values in morals and ethics have been discarded; widely accepted religious beliefs have been abandoned; physical science and medicine are being revolutionized; government, business, and matrimony are dragging their anchors.
These great changes are felt all over the world; they affect the life of every individual. There are none so lowly as to escape, none so remote as not to feel the turbulence of these times. In isolated corners of Africa – no longer the dark and unenlightened continent it used to be called – across the vast stretches of Asia, in the skyscrapers of American business and the centuries-old capitals of Europe, everywhere there is disturbance, discontent, and turmoil.
Jesus' Remedy
Christ Jesus foresaw this violent upheaval in human affairs. He spoke of strife and warfare between nations, of hatred and infidelity between men; he foretold famine, pestilence, and disaster; be warned that iniquity would abound and the love of many wax cold; false prophets would arise showing great signs and wonders, so as to deceive, if possible, the very elect. But in his great wisdom and love for mankind he also pointed out the protective action his followers are to take when this deluge threatens to engulf the world: "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh" (Luke 21:28).
The fact is that the rule for protection from all danger and the remedy for every evil situation have been available to the world for many centuries through the inspired Word of the Bible, and particularly through the teaching and example of Christ Jesus. Why, then, have men not used the remedy and prevented the evils? Because the Bible teachings have not been interpreted and understood in their spiritual import. Surely so great a teacher as Jesus would not mean that we could expect protection and redemption merely by lifting up our heads literally. He must have referred to the need for lifting up our thinking to a higher spiritual and moral plane in order to understand God's power to redeem men from the famines of material sense, the pestilences of immorality, and the earth-shaking impact of revolutionary changes in human society.
"The People's Idea of God"
First of all, the need is to know God. Human life is the expression of the human beliefs about God.
Someone has written, "The gods men worship write their names on their foreheads." Mary Baker Eddy, the Discoverer and Founder of Christian Science, explains this action of human belief throughout her writings. Many years ago she delivered a sermon in Boston entitled, "The People's Idea of God; Its Effect on Health and Christianity." The very title is thought-provoking, and in the sermon this theme is developed and explained with great variety of treatment and in beautiful and dynamic prose. Near the end she states, "Thus it is that our ideas of divinity form our models of humanity" (The People's Idea of God, p. 14). In "Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures," the Christian Science textbook, she writes (p. 94), "The eastern empires and nations owe their false government to the misconceptions of Deity there prevalent." Of herself she declares that her illnesses before she discovered Christian Science were due to the misinterpretation of God's Word taught her in childhood (see Miscellaneous Writings 169:6-10).
Referring further to Mrs. Eddy's sermon, we read (The People's Idea of God, pp. 6, 7), "Periods and peoples are characterized by their highest or their lowest ideals, by their God and their devil." The present period and its peoples have been wonderfully blessed by the revelation of the true nature of Deity through the discovery of Christian Science. This teaching comes to the world as the "Comforter" promised by Christ Jesus, which will lead mankind into all truth. It reveals God as infinite Love, never hateful or revengeful; as divine Mind or intelligence, conceiving or creating all that is real and good and nothing that is evil; as perfect Principle, not a changeable person; as self-existent and self-sustaining Life, not subject to disease or death: as all-inclusive Truth, whose light dispels error; as all-pervading Spirit excluding matter as unreal; as the one infinite Soul, unconfined in space, the life-giving center of all creation as the divine Father and Mother of man and the universe, always present to guide, guard, protect, and preserve His children.
The impact of these higher ideas of God upon the minds of men has been tremendous! The spiritual and perfect ideal of God and man, revealed to human consciousness, has healed all types of disease, reformed sinners, lessened the expectation of death, and increased longevity. It has also stirred up latent beliefs in evil and brought them to the surface to be destroyed, as a muddy river bed is stirred to purify the stream. Thus we find the present age is characterized, not only by the higher idea of God, but also by more aggressive and subtle forms of evil.
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Christian Science - its future?
Christian Science - its future?
I do on occasion go to Christian Science church services and lectures, the reason I prefer Christian Science as my "religion" is because it is unorthodox, open minded and available to all without needing previous experience. Unlike other alleged Christian churches it is relatively free of dogma and does not beat its congregation over the head with tenets. I like the Christian Science church and I dont want to see it disappear, this is the reason I am writing this.
Although its opponents would like to portray it as a cult, this is simply wrong to the point where it is libelous and plain slander. The CS church makes no demands on anyone, neither does it control or spy on its adherants and it is not involved in politics. Although CS is more known for its attitude towards medicine rather than anything else, what the critics fail to mention is that CS has not and does not prevent adherants from seeing doctors or seeking medical treatment. CS believes that God is the ultimate healer and I believe this too, and healing is for all types of illness whether they are physical, mental or spiritual. We actually dont see 'healing' in medical establishments we see patients have the effects of their illnesses reduced, the diseases and cancers never fully go away but have been reduced to minutely small level and the pain from these germs and bacteria etc cannot be felt to the extent that they interfere in ones life. But eventually they will grow to an extant where the same conditions will replicate as before. We dont see cures or healings but a continuous cycle in the same manner as 'wash, lather, rinse, repeat'.
We have never seen one mental illness cured, all we have seen is people doped up to the stage where they are neither a threat to others or themselves. As for spirituality?
Medical 'professionals' will be the first to tell you that this is not their concern, if it involves God then it is not applicable and does not matter. All issues related to healing should be done from a holistic level because that is how you heal and cure people and not by having them on another continuous cycle of pills, drugs, psychologists and other 'specialists'.
I ask... "How is it that despite all the advancement in science and all the money spent in research and development that we are still seeing the same diseases reappear but with more debilitating effects which in turn require stronger medications?" Why is it that poor people suffer the most from these reoccurring diseases but the rich suffer for a lesser time? The only answer is what drives those in the medical profession especially now and that is money. It is not in the interests of the pharmaceutical companies for people to be cured, but rather for them to be physically or mentally addicted or dependant as it is a continuous revenue source. If people are not sick or in pain then they are out of business, the same applies to doctors and medical centres. The same also applies to psychiatrists and psychologists in regards to mental illness patients and indeed we see all manner of new 'syndromes' every day. These truly are industries of misery.
And they are growing as well, one only has to observe the patients of a medical centre over a 2 week period and one will see a pattern of the same people coming from one to two times a week. It becomes a social function of its own, if you dont have money for gambling and drinking and dont feel like waiting every week for a church service then all you have to do is go to a medical clinic with psychosomatic 'illnesses'. The illness is the entry fee for this 'nightclub', and if you are left feeling unsatisfied with the social clique there then it is easy to find another clinic. This is doctor shopping much in the same way one might find a club to belong to or a bar or a church or some sort of social outlet. If the physical illness is insufficient for the entry fee then a psychological illness is just as good, if neither illness can be conveyed then things take a drastic turn and then we see Munchausens' by proxy arise. In that we see parents deliberately placing their children in positions of risk, even worse we see cases of parents poisoning their children.
All this is done in order to get attention and we still see this now, but in the new wave case we see parents telling everyone that their child 'feels' and 'identifies' as the opposite gender. Whether the child agrees to this or not is irrelevant because until the child becomes a legal adult the parent makes all decisions for them on a legal basis. Even worse that that is that the state will recognise and protect the parents choice and while a child might be required to take a psychological assessment, the parent is not.
So today we can see hypochondria, child abuse and mental illness being protected and championed by the state, infact we could see it as another variant of Munchausens by proxy in that the state seeks to 'rectify' a political based illness by transferring that illness to the responsibility of celebrities who are the new doctors. In turn they will convince people that they are ill or are prone to illness and must be cured by the state.
So we have the same scenario with different players.
We have the state replacing the pharmaceutical manufacturers and celebrities replacing doctors, and we have physical solutions for non physical ailments. The 'disease' can be redefined by the state to match the 'medicines' they have, and a doctor can only prescribe from the menu of pills that the pharmaceutical manufacturers have on display. Or in this case the celebrities will only prescribe from what the state offers and these are social exclusion, fines, prison and ultimately death. Death is the end process from the illness of a loss of hope, it is rapid and quick and covers the spiritual, mental and physical. The state 'cure' for this requires an altering of the spiritual, mental and physical aspects of a person, the cure is to have the person abandon and reverse their innate nature. To become a new 'another' person, another cog in the groupthink machine.
None of this is new as the former communist countries can attest to.
There are some criticisms of CS some of which are just badmouthing from 'cult busters' and rival religious organisations, but some of them are really misinterpretations of ideas and terms used by CS. However all accusations and criticism should and must be answered, so now I will deal with these issues without favour or bias because all things should be out in the open. The CS church is responsible for some of these issues because they will not call out accusers, the church is pretty much pacifist and in this day and age this is pretty much a suicidal position to take. I think the main problem is the constant use of 19th century American-English idioms and syntax in publications which are not explained in the current context and without explanation as to how they can be applied today. In addition an indepth analysis of the ideas and faith of Mary Baker Eddy is not explained to the extent it should be, although if done it may portray CS as 'not Christian' the fact is most mainstream Christian churches see it as not Christian. To give this analysis would give CS adherants and the public in general a point of reference which most mainstream churches do not do, or if they have they only give a particular version of their references and none of them are the same as other mainstream churches.
CS may have factors of New Thought and other things deemed occult, but to discuss these things openly would make it more attractive to people who do believe in God but have become defacto atheists due to their dissatisfaction and alienation from churches they may have identified as or raised in. Actually I do accuse the churches of today functioning more as political and racial based cults which have replaced spirituality with ideology which can only be enacted on in a purely physical level. These sort of churches should register as political parties and not religions.
Spirituality is the main driving force behind CS, some critics will say that CS is pantheist because CS says God is 'All in all'. But yet we see stupid stories of people claiming to see Jesus in a cheese sandwich, or seeing the Virgin Mary in a cloud. Whether these sightings are based on fact or not does not give these people or their particular religion the base to say that CS is pantheist. Lets look at the CS saying that God is All in all. CS believes that God is a spiritual being and that all things that come into being are the result of God either directly creating (as in Jesus Christ) or else coming into existance due to the formula and order that he/she has put in. CS sees God as the Father/Mother of all existance, if God was purely a male father being then with whom did he procreate? It simply would not be possible if we view creation from a purely physical human point of view. As God is a spiritual entity/being then the issue of gender would not be necessary it would only be necessary as to how humans would perceive and relate to God.
In a purely spiritual level issue such as gender, genitalia and even gender fluidity could not be an issue or have any logical reason to be need on such a level. If it were then it would by default assume that spiritual entities would be engaging in physical activities such as sexual activity. The same can be said for money and other material gain, while many people may believe in God and heaven they only believe in both as some sort of concept. At moments they may engage in deep thinking concerning this but this thinking usually occurs when they are by themselves without external interference. But yet when they interact with groups of other people they will unknowingly and even unwillingly fall into and get swallowed by groupthink, they will then lower themselves down to the most base level in order to be equal with others in the group. And in that group the most malignant person by nature will be the leader of that group who is the one the low standard will be based on.
The issue of nature, personality and spirit are deemed irrelevant because it now accepted that "might is right" and we see this is in the leaders of organizations, workplaces and nations. Yes these types of people have always been in positions of power because they are drawn to and become addicted to power. But power cannot infinitely sustain itself by itself, it has to replenish and in order to plan replenishment there has to be logic and rationale in the planning. Today we see logic and rationale being side lined and replaced by emotion, and in order to indoctrinate others in emotions.... physical force and coercion has to be applied.
There is no coercion, physical violence or threats of any sorts in Christian Science because these things simply do not apply nor need to be. And nor are they desired in the church.
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This will be continued as I am sick of these people getting a bum rap
I do on occasion go to Christian Science church services and lectures, the reason I prefer Christian Science as my "religion" is because it is unorthodox, open minded and available to all without needing previous experience. Unlike other alleged Christian churches it is relatively free of dogma and does not beat its congregation over the head with tenets. I like the Christian Science church and I dont want to see it disappear, this is the reason I am writing this.
Although its opponents would like to portray it as a cult, this is simply wrong to the point where it is libelous and plain slander. The CS church makes no demands on anyone, neither does it control or spy on its adherants and it is not involved in politics. Although CS is more known for its attitude towards medicine rather than anything else, what the critics fail to mention is that CS has not and does not prevent adherants from seeing doctors or seeking medical treatment. CS believes that God is the ultimate healer and I believe this too, and healing is for all types of illness whether they are physical, mental or spiritual. We actually dont see 'healing' in medical establishments we see patients have the effects of their illnesses reduced, the diseases and cancers never fully go away but have been reduced to minutely small level and the pain from these germs and bacteria etc cannot be felt to the extent that they interfere in ones life. But eventually they will grow to an extant where the same conditions will replicate as before. We dont see cures or healings but a continuous cycle in the same manner as 'wash, lather, rinse, repeat'.
We have never seen one mental illness cured, all we have seen is people doped up to the stage where they are neither a threat to others or themselves. As for spirituality?
Medical 'professionals' will be the first to tell you that this is not their concern, if it involves God then it is not applicable and does not matter. All issues related to healing should be done from a holistic level because that is how you heal and cure people and not by having them on another continuous cycle of pills, drugs, psychologists and other 'specialists'.
I ask... "How is it that despite all the advancement in science and all the money spent in research and development that we are still seeing the same diseases reappear but with more debilitating effects which in turn require stronger medications?" Why is it that poor people suffer the most from these reoccurring diseases but the rich suffer for a lesser time? The only answer is what drives those in the medical profession especially now and that is money. It is not in the interests of the pharmaceutical companies for people to be cured, but rather for them to be physically or mentally addicted or dependant as it is a continuous revenue source. If people are not sick or in pain then they are out of business, the same applies to doctors and medical centres. The same also applies to psychiatrists and psychologists in regards to mental illness patients and indeed we see all manner of new 'syndromes' every day. These truly are industries of misery.
And they are growing as well, one only has to observe the patients of a medical centre over a 2 week period and one will see a pattern of the same people coming from one to two times a week. It becomes a social function of its own, if you dont have money for gambling and drinking and dont feel like waiting every week for a church service then all you have to do is go to a medical clinic with psychosomatic 'illnesses'. The illness is the entry fee for this 'nightclub', and if you are left feeling unsatisfied with the social clique there then it is easy to find another clinic. This is doctor shopping much in the same way one might find a club to belong to or a bar or a church or some sort of social outlet. If the physical illness is insufficient for the entry fee then a psychological illness is just as good, if neither illness can be conveyed then things take a drastic turn and then we see Munchausens' by proxy arise. In that we see parents deliberately placing their children in positions of risk, even worse we see cases of parents poisoning their children.
All this is done in order to get attention and we still see this now, but in the new wave case we see parents telling everyone that their child 'feels' and 'identifies' as the opposite gender. Whether the child agrees to this or not is irrelevant because until the child becomes a legal adult the parent makes all decisions for them on a legal basis. Even worse that that is that the state will recognise and protect the parents choice and while a child might be required to take a psychological assessment, the parent is not.
So today we can see hypochondria, child abuse and mental illness being protected and championed by the state, infact we could see it as another variant of Munchausens by proxy in that the state seeks to 'rectify' a political based illness by transferring that illness to the responsibility of celebrities who are the new doctors. In turn they will convince people that they are ill or are prone to illness and must be cured by the state.
So we have the same scenario with different players.
We have the state replacing the pharmaceutical manufacturers and celebrities replacing doctors, and we have physical solutions for non physical ailments. The 'disease' can be redefined by the state to match the 'medicines' they have, and a doctor can only prescribe from the menu of pills that the pharmaceutical manufacturers have on display. Or in this case the celebrities will only prescribe from what the state offers and these are social exclusion, fines, prison and ultimately death. Death is the end process from the illness of a loss of hope, it is rapid and quick and covers the spiritual, mental and physical. The state 'cure' for this requires an altering of the spiritual, mental and physical aspects of a person, the cure is to have the person abandon and reverse their innate nature. To become a new 'another' person, another cog in the groupthink machine.
None of this is new as the former communist countries can attest to.
There are some criticisms of CS some of which are just badmouthing from 'cult busters' and rival religious organisations, but some of them are really misinterpretations of ideas and terms used by CS. However all accusations and criticism should and must be answered, so now I will deal with these issues without favour or bias because all things should be out in the open. The CS church is responsible for some of these issues because they will not call out accusers, the church is pretty much pacifist and in this day and age this is pretty much a suicidal position to take. I think the main problem is the constant use of 19th century American-English idioms and syntax in publications which are not explained in the current context and without explanation as to how they can be applied today. In addition an indepth analysis of the ideas and faith of Mary Baker Eddy is not explained to the extent it should be, although if done it may portray CS as 'not Christian' the fact is most mainstream Christian churches see it as not Christian. To give this analysis would give CS adherants and the public in general a point of reference which most mainstream churches do not do, or if they have they only give a particular version of their references and none of them are the same as other mainstream churches.
CS may have factors of New Thought and other things deemed occult, but to discuss these things openly would make it more attractive to people who do believe in God but have become defacto atheists due to their dissatisfaction and alienation from churches they may have identified as or raised in. Actually I do accuse the churches of today functioning more as political and racial based cults which have replaced spirituality with ideology which can only be enacted on in a purely physical level. These sort of churches should register as political parties and not religions.
Spirituality is the main driving force behind CS, some critics will say that CS is pantheist because CS says God is 'All in all'. But yet we see stupid stories of people claiming to see Jesus in a cheese sandwich, or seeing the Virgin Mary in a cloud. Whether these sightings are based on fact or not does not give these people or their particular religion the base to say that CS is pantheist. Lets look at the CS saying that God is All in all. CS believes that God is a spiritual being and that all things that come into being are the result of God either directly creating (as in Jesus Christ) or else coming into existance due to the formula and order that he/she has put in. CS sees God as the Father/Mother of all existance, if God was purely a male father being then with whom did he procreate? It simply would not be possible if we view creation from a purely physical human point of view. As God is a spiritual entity/being then the issue of gender would not be necessary it would only be necessary as to how humans would perceive and relate to God.
In a purely spiritual level issue such as gender, genitalia and even gender fluidity could not be an issue or have any logical reason to be need on such a level. If it were then it would by default assume that spiritual entities would be engaging in physical activities such as sexual activity. The same can be said for money and other material gain, while many people may believe in God and heaven they only believe in both as some sort of concept. At moments they may engage in deep thinking concerning this but this thinking usually occurs when they are by themselves without external interference. But yet when they interact with groups of other people they will unknowingly and even unwillingly fall into and get swallowed by groupthink, they will then lower themselves down to the most base level in order to be equal with others in the group. And in that group the most malignant person by nature will be the leader of that group who is the one the low standard will be based on.
The issue of nature, personality and spirit are deemed irrelevant because it now accepted that "might is right" and we see this is in the leaders of organizations, workplaces and nations. Yes these types of people have always been in positions of power because they are drawn to and become addicted to power. But power cannot infinitely sustain itself by itself, it has to replenish and in order to plan replenishment there has to be logic and rationale in the planning. Today we see logic and rationale being side lined and replaced by emotion, and in order to indoctrinate others in emotions.... physical force and coercion has to be applied.
There is no coercion, physical violence or threats of any sorts in Christian Science because these things simply do not apply nor need to be. And nor are they desired in the church.
.........................................................
This will be continued as I am sick of these people getting a bum rap
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